Comments on: The Cost of Non-Discipleship http://ymcafe.org/2007/08/15/the-cost-of-non-discipleship/ A discussion forum for all things youth ministry... Join in! Thu, 21 Aug 2008 08:47:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU By: Matt http://ymcafe.org/2007/08/15/the-cost-of-non-discipleship/#comment-190 Matt Wed, 07 Nov 2007 18:14:40 +0000 http://ymcafe.org/2007/08/15/the-cost-of-non-discipleship/#comment-190 Master Plan of Evangelism and Discipleship - Robert E. Coleman Training of the Twelve - Alexander Bruce Master Plan of Evangelism and Discipleship - Robert E. Coleman

Training of the Twelve - Alexander Bruce

]]> By: Suz Cate http://ymcafe.org/2007/08/15/the-cost-of-non-discipleship/#comment-39 Suz Cate Fri, 31 Aug 2007 15:31:32 +0000 http://ymcafe.org/2007/08/15/the-cost-of-non-discipleship/#comment-39 But having harrumphed a bit, Peter is exactly right--the best manual for discipleship is right there in the back of the Holy Bible. Jesus is certainly the exemplar, but Paul aint too shabby either. Then old St. James will whip your butt into shape; St. Peter will knock you over the head with love and kindness, and John brings it home with the vision of the New Creation! If you'll settle for mentoring as a form of discipleship, there are some good books out there--I'll have to hunt up those references later, after I've given my employer a fair share of my attention. But having harrumphed a bit, Peter is exactly right–the best manual for discipleship is right there in the back of the Holy Bible. Jesus is certainly the exemplar, but Paul aint too shabby either. Then old St. James will whip your butt into shape; St. Peter will knock you over the head with love and kindness, and John brings it home with the vision of the New Creation!

If you’ll settle for mentoring as a form of discipleship, there are some good books out there–I’ll have to hunt up those references later, after I’ve given my employer a fair share of my attention.

]]> By: Suz Cate http://ymcafe.org/2007/08/15/the-cost-of-non-discipleship/#comment-37 Suz Cate Fri, 31 Aug 2007 15:17:56 +0000 http://ymcafe.org/2007/08/15/the-cost-of-non-discipleship/#comment-37 Interesting. I would say that the false gospel is as likely to be the neutered gospel of the I'm OK, You're OK Jesus that can be derived from reading only those bits of the Bible that we like. I hate to see the Old Testament charactirized as a set of rules, when it is as much a love story as it is a Hoyle's for the game of life. Interesting. I would say that the false gospel is as likely to be the neutered gospel of the I’m OK, You’re OK Jesus that can be derived from reading only those bits of the Bible that we like. I hate to see the Old Testament charactirized as a set of rules, when it is as much a love story as it is a Hoyle’s for the game of life.

]]> By: Anna http://ymcafe.org/2007/08/15/the-cost-of-non-discipleship/#comment-32 Anna Tue, 21 Aug 2007 06:20:56 +0000 http://ymcafe.org/2007/08/15/the-cost-of-non-discipleship/#comment-32 Graham, Peter, welcome to both of you! I've seen Shane Claiborne speak, and I like what he's up to in the inner city. Peter, I love it! Do ministry like Jesus did? Use the Bible as a field guide? What strange notions you have :-P What did you think we were, the church or something?! Graham, Peter, welcome to both of you! I’ve seen Shane Claiborne speak, and I like what he’s up to in the inner city.

Peter, I love it! Do ministry like Jesus did? Use the Bible as a field guide? What strange notions you have :-P What did you think we were, the church or something?!

]]> By: Peter Trenchi http://ymcafe.org/2007/08/15/the-cost-of-non-discipleship/#comment-30 Peter Trenchi Mon, 20 Aug 2007 23:31:46 +0000 http://ymcafe.org/2007/08/15/the-cost-of-non-discipleship/#comment-30 OK, there's this book, I got a copy years ago, that seems to be really helpful on discipleship. It starts out as kind of a mix of documentary & street theater and finishes with some analytical and interpretive pieces set within different social contexts. It's not a handy-dandy how-to. Contemplative reading is required. For people like me who get totally flustered with a list of instructions, it is far more beneficial since it does require reflection upon the situational application. The book is called The new Testament. For those who are still looking for that list of instructions, try that book called The Old Testament. Although I've seen the New Testament marketed seperately, the Old Testament is marketed together with the New Testament as a set. Wonder why?? :~> PT OK, there’s this book, I got a copy years ago, that seems to be really helpful on discipleship. It starts out as kind of a mix of documentary & street theater and finishes with some analytical and interpretive pieces set within different social contexts. It’s not a handy-dandy how-to. Contemplative reading is required. For people like me who get totally flustered with a list of instructions, it is far more beneficial since it does require reflection upon the situational application. The book is called The new Testament. For those who are still looking for that list of instructions, try that book called The Old Testament. Although I’ve seen the New Testament marketed seperately, the Old Testament is marketed together with the New Testament as a set. Wonder why?? :~> PT

]]> By: Graham Martin http://ymcafe.org/2007/08/15/the-cost-of-non-discipleship/#comment-28 Graham Martin Thu, 16 Aug 2007 01:18:51 +0000 http://ymcafe.org/2007/08/15/the-cost-of-non-discipleship/#comment-28 One of the best books on discipleship I've encountered, though I doubt it was meant as such, is Shane Claibourne's Ordinary Radicals. While its kind of written on a personal level, the importance of finding and developing lasting community for both personal and social transformation is a constant theme. A really worthwhile read, and something young people can look at and go "I'm nearly his age, why can't I start now", rather than a book by someone 20 years older (not that age doesn't give wisdom, but that it removes accessibility in these days it seems). One of the best books on discipleship I’ve encountered, though I doubt it was meant as such, is Shane Claibourne’s Ordinary Radicals. While its kind of written on a personal level, the importance of finding and developing lasting community for both personal and social transformation is a constant theme. A really worthwhile read, and something young people can look at and go “I’m nearly his age, why can’t I start now”, rather than a book by someone 20 years older (not that age doesn’t give wisdom, but that it removes accessibility in these days it seems).

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